hey everyone. i recently downloaded mad moxxi and my roommate and i are having someserious trouble with the angelic ruins (especially the 4th wave in the 5th round). we found some great spots in the gully and hell-burbia for sniping or just getting out of some trouble, but can't seem to find a good spot to set up in the AR. Just wondering if anyone has found a spot that seems to give you an advantage during the fights?

________________________________________________________________________________________________ahhhhhhhh! angelic ruins! worst map outta the 3 my personal opinion, if you want a good camping spot i'm afraid you are out of luck, this map was especialy made for a hit-n-run tactic, so my best advice is to not stay in one spot to long, stay close to your teamates, use everything as cover, and DO NOT use the sniper rifle, your best bet would be something automatic. < hope that helps -Cqueen

best spot ive found is actually just to your right when you first spawn (the two man-made towers with a wall directly behind you) and the ledge by the one to the right when your in them. works great during the horde wave and gives you a pretty good vantage point over most of the map when your on the ledge and when your on the platform youve got decent (id say bout 60-70%) cover from fire. only problem is during some waves enemies will spawn right beside you, so when a new wave starts, make sure to take cover from everyone else and watch your back. to get up on the ledge jump on the box on top of the platform then you can easily jump to the ledge, or when low-grav is on you can easily just jump onto the ledge

death from above--reapers never sleep XBL gamertag= Dfareaper 03:15, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

hehe, this map was the first one we tried... as mordecai, the absolut best spot is the ledge above the right ramp (looking out). you know, of the two ramps in front of the closed gate. you can get there only by grenjumping or during the low gravity phase (jump on the arrow sign, first)... but once there, there are only two reasons to get down: a) reviving a teammate or b) getting blown down by a rocket/grenade. noone can reach you there, and you can snipe at anything below... Hoeskioeh 07:16, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

My fav place is the south side behind the large stone double ramp. (See below) It protects you from long range/direct attack. Approaching attackers expose their heads first for critical hits. The upper ramp is excellent for Sniping. You can run up-n-down the ramps which makes the Horde wave form single-file. If flushed, you can run to the far East side and then back. Be careful during Gun waves as a Bandit or Crimson Lance sometimes spawns on the upper ramp. MeMadeIt 08:05, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Like others above me, I typically use the double ramp area (in the far north of the picture above) as my initial base of operations on waves until I gather what's going on. Enemies do sometimes spawn there, but otherwise it's a good place to start off. The wide open area in the east, OTOH, not so much so. --Azuarc

i disagree, this is my second favorite map, there is a cmping spot where from the stage facing towards moxxi's tower head forward and left. youll see some rubble with ba ledge that you can jump on, jump on the ledge then on the rubble, then look left and jump as high as you can (w/o low grav) you should be able to be at the edge of the map, best sniper spot BTW