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"maybe not a whole planet . . .id settle for a forest moon . . . with ewoks to shoot (heh, heh)Dr. Clayton Forrestor 10:41, December 2, 2009 (UTC)"

Contents 1 Welcome 1.1 Minions of Dr. F 1.2 The Chatting Sysops 2 Glossary of (un)familiar terms 3 Conversations 3.1 DR. 3.2 Signatures 3.3 Borderlands 2 3.4 Here comes the flood 4 New Conversations 4.1 start here 4.2 MESSAGE 4.3 This is a headline 4.4 Re: aching the Cake 4.5 pre-emptive strike 4.6 TFC not installing 4.7 secret forum police 4.8 BL2 $10k preorder 4.9 Blogvertising 4.10 Class specific notes 4.11 CSS and Sysop update 4.12 So we meet again... Dr. F!!! >:D 4.13 A musical offering, possibly inappropriate 4.14 Sorry if this is wrong way to do this =/ 4.15 spam filter strikes again 4.16 Sorry 4.17 Bureaucrat question 4.18 Ref 4.19 re: oi! 4.20 Portal Slider 4.21 wiki nyew look 4.22 Determination 4.23 "my story" 4.24 pix 4.25 Reversed edits on Weapon Crate Locations 4.26 gripe 4.27 forum 4.28 craw 4.29 Steamy details 4.30 Recent edit

WelcomeEdit

Hi, my screen name is Dr. Clayton Forrestor. you can call me Dr. F. i am a sysop (administrator) for this wikia. if i can be of service in any way please contact me. enjoy.

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Minions of Dr. FEdit

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Darkseide

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A LB gamer

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The Chatting SysopsEdit

DR. F is available for chat on aim/google user = DrCForrestor - on xfire = drclaytonforrestor and skype = The_Evil_Dr_F

is available as thedarkestmeepit on google

is available as Fenrakk101 on google

I prefer MSN over AIM =P 18:50, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

can be reached via email at fryguy42@gmail.com. Xfire and Steam chat services are also available.

Glossary of (un)familiar termsEdit

drop your term here and someone will define it.

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shotty: shotgun

DPS: damage per second

proc: Proc is a common term used primarily in game programming to refer to an event - a "procedure" - triggered under particular circumstances.

stack: end result is additive (+150% critical damage from sniper rifle stacks with mordecai's +6% critical damage from deadly skill)

DOT: damage over time

area of effect: "splash damage" non-point focal damage over area

FPRPG: first person role playing game

Flinch: is when you shoot an enemy and they temporarily stop, like how shooting a charging Badass Psycho enough can make it stop for a moment.

Non-Trigger Damage: bullet and rocket damage only, not elemental (proc:see above) damage. directed damage not involving DOT or area of effect. this term was made up by a user for use on his/her forum and should in no way be considered a gaming term

Accuracy Recovery: this is the time it takes your sights to stop wavering and give you an _accurate_ sight picture.

construct: a weapon/item put together in WT so that it is legit however it has all parts geared for a purpose (damage, tech, ROF, recharge, regen, power)

WT: Willowtree

ROF: Rate of fire

namespace: user namespace

mainspace: main namespace

speedloader: the half/full moon clips depicted in the game, used to load revolver, shotgun and sniper cylinders.

clip: incorrectly used to replace magazine. unfortunately due to the ignorance rule it is more widely used and must be trained out of initiates into the military, arms and/or munitions industries and those choosing to speak coherently. (does gearbot actually use the words "clip size" for magazine size?)

The Fudd: the seeming dance performed by players sorting through craw or loot-n-the-box drops. slowly moving, weapon in hand, looking down or directly ahead. "be vewy kwyette, im hunting ___"

aggro: short for aggravate, is an internal measurement for how much of a threat the AI considers an individual player to be. The more aggro a player holds, the more highly that player will be prioritized for attacks and skill usage by the AI. Commonly misused instead of the term "pull" (i.e. aggro that enemy = pull that enemy).

kite: staying at a distance, using ranged attacks, and running whenever the enemy comes near. the player doing the kiting leads the enemy around.

ConversationsEdit

New ConversationsEdit

start hereEdit

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BL2 $10k preorderEdit

i think i'll wait for the steam sale. Aussies really love their BL2. [1] 23:31, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Borderlands 2 is on sale? where? I will pay any price! Does it have free shipping for over $50 purchase? I need the money if it does. 09:50, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

do my eyes decieve me, or is that an EB (or maybe a JB) sticker (can't tell coz of the res).F ₳ ┬ M @ И 2539 ^{► talk◄} 01:47, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

EB - Oz, mate. that's not a pre-order. *pulls out $10k BL2. this is a pre-order! 01:56, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thought so, i just couldn't quite tell.F ₳ ┬ M @ И 2539 ^{► talk◄} 02:22, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Blogvertising Edit

A while back, I saw a forum you made about eliminating advertising on this wiki (I was just innocently trolling, honest). Can you provide me a link? 09:45, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Forum:Coalition_to_ban_adverts.   Dr. F            10:58, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Class specific notes Edit

I did not know about that rule. It makes sense for keeping the page clean. I am torn about it since wiki is about information plus it will just keep getting edited. 18:07, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

put it on lilith's page? it is specific to her.   Dr. F            19:23, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

It doesnt really matter where it is put. When peeps look up anarchy, they will wonder why there is no mention. Prolly the same for other weapons. Perhaps a class specific section can be made at the bottom of the weapon pages (nightmare, I know) or at least a some links for more info. I personally do not like the UNDO summary of: mentioned on other pages, lets keep this one clean :D 20:14, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

sorry bub. what we like isnt what we get. this was decided _long_ ago. b4 i was a sysop. no class only info. no opinions. they will know because class only info is not on _any_ weapon's page. "lets keep this one clean" was not me, why mention it here? i do say "mentioned elsewhere" often. if you dont like that, well . . .   Dr. F            20:30, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Ahh... mentioned elsewhere in the article is a bit different than mentioned elsewhere on the wiki. I do not require everyone to read everything before editing anything. I was only looking at the situation with new eyes. It's not that big a deal, but I do look at things. 08:35, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

(The Evil Dr. F's note - i do require users to read everything before editing anything. trivia could be limited to the trivia page you know. im crazy enough to do it. go ahead, dare me.)

Dude, you can do anything you want... you are the boss. 10:50, February 22, 2012 (UTC) are you editing after everything i write just to get the last word?   Dr. F            10:52, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Does it seem that way? I just caught it. sarcasm vrs. sarcasm. Lets sit back a bit on the issue. I have no problem with the status quo. Read my talk page (i shoulda said that earlier). 11:01, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

i am having enough trouble keeping up with my own vershnarking talk page! why would i want to read yours?   Dr. F            11:15, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

my bad 11:20, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

stop   Dr. F           

I dont want to fight, not with anyone... NOT with NOhara. 11:35, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

CSS and Sysop update Edit

I've done all I was planning with the css. I'd like to keep css-sysop status for another week, as there will probably still be a few kinks with the monobook skin I'll have to fix. I'll change our templates to reference our new classes in a few days, to limit the impact on users that did not refresh their cache. I may request a 24h site notice about it.

->ty for the temporary privileges. Nobody complained about the css, so I guess there are no bugs. Job is finished. happypal (talk • contribs) 22:50, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

BravoZulu.   Dr. F            23:10, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

On a completely un-related note, I was actually thinking of applying for the full-admin position. Borderlands 2 is coming, and we'll soon be needing all hands on deck. That and being an admin is fun, and I want in. Do you have any objections to me creating an RFA? happypal (talk • contribs) 15:23, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

do you not have a certain other wiki to look after?   Dr. F            18:26, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

I have many other wikis to look after as a matter of fact! I'm a bureaucrat on 5 other wiks, 2 of which are still active ;) Being an admin on several wikis is not grounds for refusal last time I checked ;)

All jokes aside, of course, I know which wiki you are talking about. I do not view this as a problem. When I first told you about it, I said I had no plans whatsoever to leave here, and have continued to work hard. I can only see positive things to having a cross admin: For one, you'd seal me here as an admin. Second, I feel we having a cross admin could create a unique bridge to try to create parallel communities. This is an experiment I'd like to try to carry out fully.

And if we forget about that for just a second, I really fucking love the Borderlands wiki anyways, I am skilled and motivated, and want to be an admin here :D

Now with the above said, I am currently thinking about applying for full admin, and wanted to probe you about it first. If you feel my "situation" as being something problematic, or if you also feel like we have too many admins, then I will also not insist. As I like to say, we're all adults here, and I won't rage quit for so little either. So long story short: Do you object to a new RFA? happypal (talk • contribs) 20:30, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

whether or not _i_ have any objection(s) about it should not dissuade you from applying. and we do not have enough admins, imo.   Dr. F            20:57, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

So we meet again... Dr. F!!! >:D Edit

So.. yeah, I'm back. I plat to be as contributive as I can till the BDL2 comes out ..end of the world comes. Mind updating me with info on what's changed and who's who around ('cept for them oldschoolers, still remember 'em well). :) AS awlays.. msg approved by 17:39, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

ZAPH! (read:Norm!). good to see you. we have a few on medical leave but the regs are here, 'cept the sysops. we have Geeters now and teams. the big change is going to be which pages are moved (none) and which are going to be split into 2 for blands 2 content. some new faces are User:Daemmerung and User:Happypal. jump in where you like, you know the drill.   Dr. F            17:59, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

A musical offering, possibly inappropriate Edit

Drama.

Sorry if this is wrong way to do this =/ Edit

I posted this on Raz' page(not even sure if I'm doing this right xD). I have logged info for Maya on BL2, using the launch trailer. I can't seem to edit the character page myself so I was curious if someone cost post it who's got power.

Maya's skill tree has three paths - Motion, Harmony, and Cataclysm

"Mind's Eye" - Harmony skill tree - Increases Critical Hit Damage and Melee Damage.
"Sweet Release" - Harmony skill tree - Killing an enemy who you currently have Phaselocked creates Life Orbs, which automatically heal the party.
"Wreck" - Harmony skill tree - While you have an enemy Phaselocked you gain increased Fire Rate and Damage with all gun types.
"Recompense" - Harmony skill tree - Taking Health damage has a chance to cause your Shields to instantly start charging. Also increases your Shield Recharge Rate.
"Res" - Harmony skill tree - You can instantly revive a downed friend by using Phaselock on him/her.
"Elated" - Harmony skill tree - While you have an enemy Phaselocked you and your friends Regenerate Health.
"Inertia" - Motion skill tree - Killing an enemy causes your Shields to quickly regenerate and increases your Reload Speed for a few seconds.
"Kinetic Reflection" - Motion skill tree - After killing an enemy you gain the ability to reflect enemy bullets, sending them flying bacfk toward your enemies. This effect lasts for a short time.
"Accelerate" - Motion skill tree - Increases Damage and Bullet Speed with all gun types.
"Ward" - Motion skill tree - Improves your Shield Capacity and Shield Recharge Delay.
"Suspension" - Motion skill tree - Increases the duration of Phaselock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crusader4JC (talk • contribs)

other than signing your post the only better way to get it noticed would be to make a note on the Maya talk page. ty, well get it added toute de suite.   Dr. F            15:06, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

spam filter strikes again Edit

I can't undo the recent wipe to Talk:Class Mod. Dämmerung

ty. thot you had rollback. you do now.   Dr. F            17:30, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Dämmerung was added to the list of hilite users. Yeah, that has to be done by hand. happypal (talk • contribs) 17:45, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, feels like I gained a few hit points, too. Also, Happy's latest CSSery finally trickled into the cache so I can see again. Off to memorize the new spells-- I'll be back. Dämmerung 17:57, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry Edit

I thought it was a misspelling :s Curse Firefox's spellchecker. Carb 0 18:16, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrat question Edit

First occurred to me when seeing some random es: annotations in some pages I've hacked, but forgotten until I saw User:Wagnike2's recent avalanche of de: additions. I presume that these are references to localized Spanish, German, etc. versions of pages. What do I as an Englisch-using editor need to do to support this effort? Or at least, not to inflict unnecessary damage to this effort? Dämmerung 04:46, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

actually they ^(both) need help. i suggest washing the text through google translate and upload missing images over there. if they object at least we tried. i doubt they will though. they will let us/you know if were not wanted and the properness of the deutche/enspanol can be assessed by the locals. good question.   Dr. F            04:51, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Having been a Bureaucrat on a wiki that actively developed multiple languages, I can say that as an English speaking user, there is NOTHING (or very little) you can do to help. At best, you can upload images for them, but you'll quickly realize how hard it is not knowing the language. At best, you can parse their [[en:link back to english]] links, and link back to them, but it would be better to actually have a bot set-up to do that.

What you can do to not hinder them is: Don't make any large and unnecessary changes to templates that would require a change to every page. The language communities are usually smaller, and have a harder time dealing with change. Finally, if you ever write/maintain a template, don't write namespace names explicitly (eg: "talk"/"template") but use their numerical code: {{ns:1}}/{{ns:10}}.

Whatever you do, don't google translate our pages to them.

My 0.02$ happypal (talk • contribs) 07:45, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

I've played BL a few times in German, just for yucks, but I won't pretend to be qualified to localize for them. Having been a developer on large software projects localized into multiple languages, that's just the sort of guidance I sought. Active guidance from Wagnike2 or his cohorts would be better still. (I wish that we had lots more bots than we do-- just hurt me to see all that editor effort wasted in manually rolling forum pages into the archives, one at a time.) Dämmerung 18:31, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Ref Edit

I'm just noticing that there are virtually no "references" on the wiki. I'm not talking about trivia, or cultural references, but rather the tags that justify your source. I just added one on Boom Stick, but I'm wondering if we ever decided to not use them or something? happypal (talk • contribs) 11:17, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

i think they were used (rampantly) by the old version(s) of several templates.   Dr. F            13:18, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

re: oi! Edit

Well holy s*, definitly has been. Thought I'd reply here as I'd guess it's your normal place of reside. Yeah anyway, I pretty much gave up on wikia's a while ago, took 'til now to log in and have a quick check. Tell you what though, considering I'm so hyped for BL2 I'll probably contribute a little before release but not before a little lurk around to see how things are done around here. Also, how a things on your end? -- IDave Ja Vu(^Talk) 04:52, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

"They call me mad!" - Dr. F

Ah, thanks. Very new to wiki editing, though been following this wiki for a long while and made a few forum posts, Just don't like seeing people vandalizing a great wiki and trying to do my bit TheDataAngel 12:58, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

you did. thank you.   Dr. F            15:41, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Portal Slider Edit

Hey ma, I can't remember if i showed you this yet. Preferably the first link, component/slider. I was wondering if we could condense the homepage by integrating this feature in some way. The arrows are supposed to work and we should be able to scroll through it, but for whatever reason that isn't working.

If someone figures out how to make the arrows work, i think it would look great to have that on the front page. We could have links to Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Weapons, and Walkthrough on it, since those are the main reasons people go to this wiki.

Or if that one is too complicated, we could just put a slider like the ones used on the dlc pages instead. Just food for thought, I think i'll make some scratch pages either way. _♥ ☮^✰Razldazlchick _♥ ☮^✰ 22:50, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

wiki nyew lookEdit

check out the wiki's nyew look. 06:01, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

strawberry poptart kittehs farting rainbows. impressive, most impressive. your evil is developing nicely.   Dr. F            20:43, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Determination Edit

I love how determined the both of us where this morning xD I was just trying to push through to the chests. GeneralOwnage55 The Message Box 11:47, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

i eventually figured that out. rather than someone who really likes the spawn in transition^(:. you grabbed some good stuff. esp for a new character.   Dr. F            13:32, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Dr. if need some presciption for a power core i call you, i like the game its cool, and i try fix the Spanish page, its a little mess but i like the challlengues.

Well, see you later, this soldier need rest Zolenoid out. Zolenoid 23:07, April 22, 2012 (UTC)ZolenoidZolenoid 23:07, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

"my story" Edit

I've always wondered what the official history of Pandora was after first writing out my version here. It's been, I think, either close to or over a year since my last tweak of the old place and idle curiosities seem to not have been satisfied. And my history, I note with quiet disquiet, is still there.

TrollofReason 04:37, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

ive not touched it. and i think its a testament to how good and/or believable it is that no one else has either. just watch out for the truth nazis.   Dr. F            05:39, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

pixEdit

Hello!

i am wondering if i can post two pictures of a nomad ( on the nomad page) and a picture of roland from borderlands 2 on the roland page.

Thanks!!!!1 :)

Harrison499174002 19:17, April 28, 2012 (UTC)i did post the picture of roland on pictures already but i wills see if i can post here on this page now

Hello again

i did get your chat message and i do not know how to do that

but i did make one of the pictures for borderlands 2 my avatar so check it out

just a random question: do you play borderlands?Harrison499174002 01:52, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

thanks

oddly enough, i do. i know that comes as a shock to you and the viewers at home. but The Ëvil Dr. F does play this and way too many other video games. and freely admits it on his steam page. about the other thing, if youve uploaded them elsewhere to a file vault, perhaps we can look at them and upload for you.   Dr. F            08:20, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Reversed edits on Weapon Crate Locations Edit

Hi, this is 131.252.4.4 (from home now, not school). The edits I made to that article are accurate (I have 1500 hrs in game and much of it in the vanilla game world, I know it well enough to give accurate counts for things like Lockboxes and such). I will try to add info on which chests are missing to the specific articles (on talk page there of) for each region and if I find time get some pics and descriptions for them as well. So I am politely asking that you unreverse your edit. As I am not about to start an edit war. 69.54.129.231 06:33, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

i did not say they were not accurate. as i said on your talk page @ fourdotfour you did not summarize your edits. this would be easier if you made an account so were not talking on 3 different pages. you are welcome make sweeping changes to articles however comma by policy (which, admittedly, i wrote) unsummarized edits may be undone or rolled back. thank you for your interest in Borderlands Wiki.   Dr. F            07:03, May 1, 2012 (UTC) you may, of course, undo my rollback and give it a summary and move on to your next project like pictures (dont forget to categorize them).

I confirmed them all and provided a summary. dotfour, please provide a summary next time. it really helps us distinguish quality work, such as yours, from the masses of drive-bys and vandals out there. Dämmerung 15:42, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

gripeEdit

what is your major malfunction with deleting my posts?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabretooth1991 (talk • contribs)

thanks.......sorry for bein such a hard ass....

forumEdit

Dear Doctor,

I re-wrote the page I put up for the Mac Edition by Feral Interactive ( Forum:Backup saves Mac Edition by Feral Interactive ) which you archived for not being an article.
If it passes now could you please re-instate it and if not, let me know what you might suggest to make it pass?

Many thanks,

Playsonmac.

hows that? article needed help. did i muck up the link to bordertool?   Dr. F            11:22, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

I apologize that I'm completely "green" about all things wiki...I want to make an anonymous report of "something" this afternoon on THIS wiki. I really would rather appeal to the admins of the awesome wiki. How do I go about reporting abuse that occurred directly to me this afternoon discreetly? do yo have some message box/support spot? I don't really follow how to add a report on the report vandalism chart? Again I'm very "green".

crawEdit

Do you have BL on the PC, a level 65(?) character, and free time to help me kill Crawmerax?-Therealmisterderp

i have some 69s, will they do?   Dr. F            15:30, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah! Any high levels are good. Steam name is spinning robo. -Therealmisterderp Let's continue this talk on my page?

or steam?   Dr. F            15:46, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Steamy details Edit

Yes, it's Spinning Robo on steam. Therealmisterderp 15:47, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Recent edit Edit

Hello I am ZOLOFT18 I made an edit earlyer and I am not very educated with your policys so If you could help that would be great.

It was about Thirsty the miget I think he is a referance to the "thirsty Grunt" in the halo serise here is a link

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Thirsty_Grunt

here are the similarities grunts in halo are very small and a common enemy like migets in borderlands

there is one grunt at the end of the game coencidently called thirsty the grunt and he like thirsty the miget will not attack you and will actually talk with you I thought it was pretty interesting and if its not enough information thats fine.

thank you for your time and if there is anything else I can do to make it correct next time your help would be very much appreciated once again thanks :)

ZOLOFT18

as i recall zoloft¹⁸ the edit was commented to source. by that i mean it is still there, just awaiting the above link to be added and the <!-- comment --> tags to be removed. [[w:c:halo:Thirsty_Grunt|Thirsty Grunt]] would do just fine.   Dr. F            20:56, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

alright I will do that thank you very much for the help. :)

nicely done.   Dr. F            03:34, May 21, 2012 (UTC)